discussion--plot

[Moony™]

Thanks! Yeah sure you may create that cat!
I'll think about it.

[Rosii </3]

-thinks- This is a bit like cats getting addicted to drugs to be honest. However, it could be interesting and quite funny at the same time, most of us know about the effects of drugs through school when they tell us about them and try to put us off them, thats what I have had anyway at my school.

[Moony™]

Hmm... good idea!
Yeah, this plot's supposed to be healthy for teens and kids all over the world with no drug effects and invasive species with tree hugger things. : )

I think we should have a team of cats who are Anti-Flower, who is against the use of drugs (the flower_.
Our school does it too (me, Icy, and Bluesayer).

War info:
There are three teams.
One, trying to kill out the flowers. (Anti-flower)
Two, trying to keep the flowers.
Three, don't care and just want the fighting to stop.

One's reason is for that the flowers are killing all. Other plants (the flowers are taking all the nutrition), the cats (drug and like), and the peace is falling apart (with the madness).

Two's reason is that the flowers are helpful. And it did work like a drug. Addictive and it made them feel 'happy' in its stupid weird way. And it was beautiful.

Three's reason, well, simple. Anti-fighting. And couldn't really decide.

[ramen]

I think the plots rather good.I can't include anything because at the moment my brain is fried but I think the plots okay.It seems just a bit wierd in my opinion.Don't ask why. If I think of anything I'll post.

[Moony™]

For destroying our flower, I've took research and found ideas! : )

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Ideas for destroying the flower: Belladonna.

1. Poison (I don’t really like this idea, since of it may effect the whole thing, with further problems)

2. Winter and another symptom (if our plot gets that long, in time)

3. Natural disasters. (You name it. Hurricanes, earthquake, storms… blizzards or hail in winter… I don’t like tornados or wildfires, since wildfire will kill almost everything and tornados aren’t likely when there’s an ocean near)

4. Introducing another invasive species. Like the flower, who is an introduced invasive species, we can have another. Such as… let’s say grasshoppers. They’ll eat the flowers, but then they could get overpopulated. Then, fear not, they’re mice. Mice eats grasshoppers; mice’s population increase. But then, don’t forget the cats. They’ll eat the mice, which they’re not going to get overpopulated, but healthier.

Positive pointers about the plot:
Anti-drug, overcoming addiction, and saving nature about population/invasive species.

Does anyone have an estimate about how long this plot could take? That could go for #2 and partly #3.
But I really like the idea for #4, so we'll mix them.

[harrald]

4 could work like this;

A new specimen of butterfly could come in ((I know, lame. But work with me here... xD)). It could be a Dark, mysterious green with hints of night-black blues ((it's the opposite color of the flower)). When a butterfly is lit upon the flower, and drinks of its sweet pollens, the flower shrivels black and dies. But soon the forest, though the flowers are gone, sees that the butterflies are too numerous. Every flower in the forest tasted from by the destructive creatures withers and dies. But soon, the reign of another creature comes upon the forest. Rats. And these rats are very different from most. They are nearly the size of cats, and they are a dark, deathly brown. Their crimson eyes are full of hatred. They destroy the butterflies, but soon they are over-populated. And the cats cannot stop them all...

A twoleg thing comes into play, so suddenly. The rats vanish, but as they do so, the cats fall ill. And soon, they are all dying. Twoleg rat poison can be found on all the leaves. It starts out as a harmless pellet. Swallowed by insects, whom the rats eat. The cats can simply brush it off. But the rats remain. So, the twolegs come and place a liquid on each plant. Suddenly, herbs are like poison. None are safe. And the prey that eats these plants become deadly too. The cats are hardly surviving at all...

And then, the Clans, in their suffer, find hope. As the rats vanish, so do the 'twoleg poisons'. And then, finally, the cats begin to find survival again. For now...


((yes, it sucks... o.o But it was all I could think at the moment))

[Moony™]

Oh my gosh, Harrald, that's awesome!
I love the butterfly idea, I saw the Bee Movie recently, so pollen works great! And butterflies are cool. Oh yeah.

And the rat control works good too, for poison works great.
But then, we need some flashing ending action for when the rats/poison vanish.
How about mice eats the butterflies instead, which the poison is released.
But when you look in to the scenery of the lake and the forest, there's only the Greenleaf Twoleg Place and barely no twoleg house there. Which seems to me that it's a nature-protection area, an ideal place for Nature Camping and a place for field trips.

Mice --> Cats
When the mice gets a little bit outta control, eating butterflies like crazy in a frenzy, the Twolegs tries to inject poison, which effects only for mice and maybe for a little for small mammals, like kits, squirrels, rats... but then it's worth it, decreasing the flowers and the butterflies.
The mice decreases in number and the cats are eating it, but they're keeping in control, after what they've seen.

Hm... I think we should add more effects of the war, the war needs a meaning.

[froststar]

I think Froststar will be in the anti-flower!

[harrald]

Hmmm.... good point.... Oh! I know!

So the mice are over-populated. And the cats can have a great supply of food. But suddenly, the mice vanish. Why have they done so? What made them? And suddenly, the Clans realize they're not alone... They could discover a cat-pack (IE - LakePack, TreePack, etc.) and then have to fight for territory... =^.^=

[Moony™]

Ooh! I like the idea, but I don't know about having another clan pack, the site's just about starting so I don't know if we have the adequate amount of numbers.

[harrald]

Okay, scratch the pack part. Here's another idea;

The cats get used to abundant prey. The mice are so plentiful, every Clan is full from them! So much, though, that soon problems begin occurring. Though the Clans are well-fed and strong, and can easily battle away epidemics and disease, the mice start running low. A violent Leafbare leaves few animals alive in the forest. Except cats. They, being strong and tough, and full of prey, do fine. But the loss of mice and other animals has a hard impact. Suddenly, prey has vanished. The cats, used to hunting little for a lot of food, are now hunting all day for almost nothing. Hunting so much, in fact, that borders go unmarked. Clans, in hope for more prey, begin to fight for more territory. The cats have grown weak and frail, and many soon pass. Those who returned from insanity because of the Belladonna begin to long for and crave the sweet flower. The Clans dive into trouble and chaos.


In midst of life comes death. But, in midst of death comes life. Five will be born, when four shall rule. And Clans shall bask in a deadly pool.[/b][/u]


Amid it all, another trouble is brewing up. Some cats are angry. Angry for not saving the flower, for lack of prey, for the often fights. They blame the leaders, the other warriors, StarClan. Soon, an uprising occurs. Many cats from all Clans flood together to drive away the evil forces. The 'evil forces', or leaders, warriors and cats that don't belong to the uprising group, are overrun. A new Clan is in command...

HateClan, who hate the Clans and everything about them, forms from the center of the troubled Clans. With five Clans and four territories, the trouble only grows.

What does it all mean? What is the fate of the Clans? Only one answer: Their fate, is your fate.






So... You might say that the problem lies in a fifth Clan... But no! The cats are ones already in a Clan. So any kitties in Clans may join... Like it?

BTW, the prophecy means this:
In the midst of life comes death In all of this happiness and growth, the Clans lose precious cats to starvation.
In the midst of death, comes life. Though the cats are suffering, they will overcome.
Five will be born, when four shall rule. Five Clans will be created while there are four.
And Clans shall bask in a deadly pool 'Deadly' refers to death, 'pool' refers to blood. So many battles and bloodshed for all the Clans.

[Moony™]

Ooh! love your theme of fighting against each other, when out-side problems were only the cause of it.

But I this is what I kind of thought, after reading your wonderful idea:

A F T E R A L L
When everything's solved; when the flower's gone. . . but this was not the end.
It seemed like so many were depending on the flower and the flowers were depending from the cats as well (for protection and mind control).

Yes, but then, you know how the flowers choked out plants and then leading to prey?
Well, the mice might have been plenty at first, but when the flowers are finally gone for good... the mice starves to death. Then the cats.
And I like the idea that the cats were used to having plenty o' food. Then, they began depending on the mice, but when they disappeared...

Some say the flowers were actually good. It did save starvation, for the petals and roots were delicious. But what was the beginning of it, before the flowers ever came?
WIth so many cats dying, the past seemed like a fantasy.

And most importantly, the blame for the Starclan is genius, we have to include it.

[Rosii </3]

Oooh this is sounding really awsome. I don't have anything to add right now seen as my brain is mush. However, I think Rosethorn will probably go wit the third group of cats, and yes I agree we do need more members to start this plot.

[Moony™]

Yep!
And thanks Ghosti, for posting!
: )

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I HAVE AN AWESOME PROPHESY/POEM IDEA

Instead of Starclan giving the cats cheap couplets, about the dangers... well, I think Starclan could do better.

At a situation like this, they need H O P E.
Sure, forward warnings are good, like Starclan does it. But instead, I believe they should say something like "Don't be afraid" or "You can do it".
Basically, encouragements.

And the poem should be longer, to get all the info/hope/warnings in.
It's easier to write longer poems too, and it looks good as well.

{IDEA}
You see, after the flower's gone, the real problem rises with the cats and the politics.
And there are the cats who have died, many.
Out of one, during a battle (politics part, thanks to Harrald), a little warrior is near-death.
She/he prays.

A pray to Starclan, saying how horrible it is (the warning), how it all happened (or in the aspect of it), what they need to do (work together or something), and what hope we need, like "Starclan, you're our hope."
I'm not sure what to say in the prayer, that's why it sounds confusing.

And the young cat who prayed, died in the battle.
The prayer is saved--it basically has all the things that what I mentioned in the "Starclan Prophesy" earlier in the post.

Then, Starclan takes the prayer, and sends it back... back before the flower ever came, back, just before the storm.

That is the prophesy.

[harrald]

I love it!